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 Post subject: Grizzly crazy starter issue
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:51 pm 
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1999 Grizzly 600

Turn key in the on position. Flip handle bar switch to on. The starter activates without the start button pushed.

Changed the handle bar switch. Same issue.

I'm stumped. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: Grizzly crazy starter issue
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Which switch did you replace? The start button?

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 Post subject: Re: Grizzly crazy starter issue
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The whole unit. Which includes the ON/OFF, start button and headlight control.

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 Post subject: Re: Grizzly crazy starter issue
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Your starter relay is most likely stuck closed.

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 Post subject: Re: Grizzly crazy starter issue
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See if this helps;

How To Test A Motorcycle, ATV & UTV Starter Relay

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK1HqCkyO9A

There are other, just do a search.

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 Post subject: Re: Grizzly crazy starter issue
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Unfortunately that's not it either. I should have added in my first post. That I replaced the starter relay after I replaced the Switch its self.

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 Post subject: Re: Grizzly crazy starter issue
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Would guess that you have a wire in the starter button/relay circurt shorterd out.

Without a wiring diagram hard to tell you what to check. Would look for worm or wires that have the inslation worn. If you starter button is one that just grounds the system and that completes the circuit then a wire is most likey shorted to ground some where. Sometime one can get lucky and start moving wires to see if the problem stops. But move the wires is section so you can maybe pen point the are of the short.

Would suggest that you get a witing daigram and start tracing the starter system.

Of course if could be something else but a short is what I would check for first.

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I pm'd you. Start disconnecting things one at a time starting with switch. This will help narrow down the short.

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I pm'd you. Start disconnecting things one at a time starting with switch. This will help narrow down the short.



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When did this problem first show up? Was other work done to the unit? Was the battery and/or cables replaced? Start at the beginning of problem when looking for solutions.

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I was actually riding it and moving it from the my barn to the garage. When the starter just started running.

Nothing placed prior to the occurrence. After the problem started. I replaced theBattery, Starter On/Off headlight unit, and solenoid/relay in a effort of trouble shooting..

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If you barn has mice/rats, them rodents love to chew on wires.

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luckily, no rats and mice. The barn cats and my dogs take care of that issue.

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 Post subject: Re: Grizzly crazy starter issue
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I would not suspect that this is caused by a short. There are only a few ways that the starter can get power. The most logical thing would be the starter relay. If you have replaced this then the next step would be to see if the starter relay coil is getting power. You can put a multimeter across it. (Red lead to one side and then black lead to the frame of your quad, if you don't have power take the red lead and check the other side of the coil) It should not have power on either side but I bet it does. This would cause the relay to be closed all the time and your starter would run.

Now the reason it would have power would be a different question. If I'm not mistaken, the power (for the coil) comes from the CDI unit. I do not think there is a way to properly test this.

**** Actually after thinking about this further, it is possible this is caused by a short. If the power from the CDI is always present, then when you push the starter button, you would provide a ground to the coil and cause the relay to close. If this is how it works then the wire between the relay coil and starter button could be touching your frame (short) causing the condition you describe. As I stated before, check to see if you have voltage (12 volts DC) on one or both sides of the coil, this should tell us a lot.

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